Nov. 12, 2025

BelongingI Am Me: Hiroko Bell on Japanese TCKs and Finding Home Between Cultures

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In this heartwarming episode of Nomadic Diaries, hosts Doreen Cumberford and Megan Norton-Newbanks welcome Hiroko Bell, a Japanese adult third culture kid (ATCK) and passionate advocate for cross-cultural families. Hiroko shares her remarkable geographical journey, from Japan to the US, England, and back again, before settling in New York City and embracing her multi-layered identity.

Key Topics & Highlights

Belonging to New York City

  • Hiroko reflects on finding home not in a physical location, but among family and community—a concept captured in her song “I Am Me.”
  • Japanese TCKs and 'Kikokushijo'
  • Unique Japanese term ‘Kikokushijo’ and its evolution: from describing children struggling to reintegrate after living abroad, to being viewed as global assets.
  • Educational and emotional challenges for returnees, especially regarding language tracks and stereotypes.
  • Importance of translating TCK resources and raising awareness in Japan.
  • The Role of Language and Identity
  • The complex relationship between language proficiency and cultural belonging, illustrated by personal anecdotes and the nuances of bilingual/mixed families.
  • Empowerment & Mission
  • Hiroko’s commitment to affirming TCK strengths, advocating for visibility and belonging, and empowering future generations through language and awareness.
  • Song Highlight:
  • Hiroko shares the story behind “I Am Me,” written to express the TCK experience and the emotional journey of finding home and identity. The episode closes with a moving excerpt from the song.

Songwriter: YUSHIO

Lyrics: Hiroko Nagata Bell

Singers: Minori Therrien Imai, Yaji Tomo, YUSHIO

Produced by Okannooto

Find Hiroko at:

https://www.instagram.com/uptck.jp

https://youtu.be/bXv6Kt1t8gM?si=fYzpoVSEkCOZCqOH

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hiroko-nagata-bell-6457811/


Here is a short excerpt from the song.Where are you from?

It’s an easy question
But not for me
Here, there or nowhere, I don’t know

I come from different places
Mix of words
Mix of norms
I wonder if I’m all mixed up

Am I more like my dad
Or more like my mom
Or maybe neither
Where do I belong?
Who am I?

Made up my mind
Won’t worry no more
I don’t have to be like anyone else
Don’t define me
Don’t confine me
I am ME

Where’s your home?
It’s an easy question
But not for me
Here, there or nowhere, I don’t know




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Nomadic Diaries explores expat life, repatriation, belonging and global living. This episode may be part of our Re-Entry Series (30 episodes on coming home) or The Belonging Project (29 episodes on belonging across cultures). Browse the full catalog at nomadicdiariespodcast.com and please share or leave a review if this episode resonated.


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